You can hear the interview with CBC Cllr Nigel Young about 48 minutes into the programme.
The battle to revitalise shopping centres
"I drove by the Quadrant Centre 25 years ago when I came to Dunstable. And guess what - it looked exactly the same then as it does now, apart from the fact that it has fewer shops."
Councillor Nigel Young doesn't hold back when it comes to his local shopping centre.
"It's awful. A large part of it needs to be knocked down and it's crying out for investment."
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